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| Posted: 18 May 2007 00:27 Last Edited By: Gas | |
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Our love affair with the car is no longer a cheap date considering today's high gas prices. But are there secrets out there that would allow you to get more miles for your money?
Plenty of companies claim if you just buy their products, you'll save on gas. The infomercial for the Tornado Fuel Saver says "its fast and easy installation can save you up to $20, $40, even $60 a month at the gas pump." The company's president, Jay Kim, appears in his own infomercials to plug the Tornado. Kim says scientific tests, including some done by ABC affiliates, prove that his product works, but other experts say those road tests don't mean anything. According to Kim, he's sold 100,000 of these products. "People put the Tornado in, they are so happy with the product, they tell a friend," Kim says. "So I'm very confident that the product works." But Consumer Reports disagrees. At its test track in Connecticut, it did road tests and found the Tornado didn't save gas. "During those tests, we splice a fuel meter into the line, run them through very strict tests, so we really get to know whether these things work or they don't," says David Champion, director of automobile testing. "We tested it on two cars, it made no difference at all." But Kim still stands by his product. "I think that someone made a mistake," Kim says. The tests that Kim is referring to, he says, are like "actual real-life, real-on-the-road testing" that came from the ECOlogic Engine Testing Laboratories. But we spoke with ECOlogic, and the man who signed off on the test, Donel Olson, says he's sorry that it has his signature on it. Kim maintains, "Tornado works. That is the bottom line." Platinum Gas Saver Another product, the Platinum Gas Saver, guarantees a 22 percent savings on gas. It's yet another product that Champion has doubts about. "We tested it on two cars, made no difference at all," he says. Joel Robinson invented the Platinum Gas Saver, which he sells for about $200. We told him that Consumer Reports tested his Platinum Gas Saver on two vehicles. Robinson's reaction: "Well, two means nothing. We can show you in our own test data. … I can show you two vehicles. One that got 12 percent worse and one that only improved by 7 percent. But if you take all 42 vehicles, what you see is an improvement of between 20 and 28 percent." Using data from that test done more than 20 years ago, Robinson kept the government from shutting his business down. The Environmental Protection Agency later ran tests and now says the product doesn't work. Robinson questioned just how valid the EPA's test is. "The EPA test is done in a laboratory," Robinson says. "The vehicle sits there on the floor, and the rear wheels are rotating on cylinders. "There's no road vibration given to our dispenser," he adds. "Therefore, no platinum is going to get dispensed. Therefore, I'm not surprised they wouldn't see any results, even if they did a test." Robinson defends his product, saying, "Obviously, what we're doing is obviously scientifically and testwise correct." But if his device works so well, then why after 25 years isn't everybody buying it and saving all this money? His explanation: "We have three vested interests who don't like us: the oil companies, the car companies, because we double engine life, and the cigarette companies, because I was involved in the first litigation that they lost." But what do cigarette companies have to do with this? "They don't like me," Robinson says. "They make life very difficult for us." America's official testing agency for gas-saving devices is the Environmental Protection Agency. It has tested 109 so-called gas savers. "The devices and the additives that we have tested just don't work," says Margo Oge, director of the EPA's office of transportation and air quality. "We have been doing it for 35 years, and we have seen pretty much everything that you can imagine." Ways to Save This is not to say there's nothing you can do to save on gas. Some NASCAR fans told us they use upper-grade gas because they say it gives them a little bit better mileage, more power and a cleaner engine. But that's a myth, one of many debunked in "20/20's" new book, "Myths, Lies and Downright Stupidity." Lots of people are fooled. Just this week, cops arrested eight men for allegedly passing off regular gas as premium at New York gas stations. They were caught only because investigators wiretapped the suspects -- the customers never noticed enough to complain. Some older cars need higher octane. And cars with high-compression, high-revving engines need higher octane gas to run smoothly. But most don't. Check your owner's manual -- 90 percent of today's new cars have low-compression engines. They don't need high-octane gas, and you're wasting your money if you buy it. Now once you've figured out which octane to buy, does the brand matter? No. All the gas, brand name and no name, comes from the same refineries. Even NASCAR driver Jimmie Johnson knows the truth. "It's a myth, you don't need the name-brand stuff." And, whatever gas you use, here are some tips from Consumer Reports: Make sure your tires are properly inflated. One that's low on air uses more energy to push the car down the road. Roll the windows down -- turn off the air conditioner. Some people believe that at highway speeds, there's so much drag from an open window that you'd save gas by putting the windows up and using the air conditioner. But that's a myth. Consumer Reports ran tests and found that at any speed, using the air conditioner burns more gas. Slow down. Don't accelerate suddenly. You save the most gas by driving smoothly. Source: http://www.abcnews.go.com/Business/PersonalFi ... |
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| Posted: 03 Jun 2007 10:52 | |
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Neat article, great advice. Just one little thing. Never tell a menopausal woman to give up her air conditioner. 
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| Posted: 15 Jun 2007 03:54 | |
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| That is a very well informed article with some excellent advice. I have a lead foot and accelerating suddenly is something I really need to work on. | |
| Posted: 17 Sep 2007 20:55 | |
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| It is interesting to know about all those myths! But I agree with Calypso... sometimes I rather pay more gas and keep the A/C on! I prefer comfort over money! | |
| Posted: 18 Sep 2007 03:55 | |
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| Great article with tons of useful tips! Well done. | |
| Posted: 21 Sep 2007 21:47 | |
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| It's always best to research a product thoroughly - especially one making unreasonable claims. So many of the fuel saver gimmicks have been scams. | |
| Posted: 06 Oct 2007 21:56 | |
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| Interesting, big compinies say that xyz is a scam, exactly what the big oil companies want them to say. And I should be surprised? Ya right. What I am surprised at is all of you going right along with it, no one questioning a thing. But I guess I'm just one of these people who dares to be diferent, and don't care if I ruffel some feathers, question everything, even if I see it with my own two eyes, question. Fact is some 80% of that fuel going in your car goes right back out your tailpipe unused. That leaves a lot of room for improvement. I would like to hear from people who have used a product, or argue theories. What have you used, what do you know? | |
| Posted: 08 Oct 2007 19:39 | |
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I don't use any "gas saver" products, and I don't think that I ever will. I have heard that so many of them are scams.
I too, prefer the A/C when it's hot to the windows down. Comfort over money is a must for me. |
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| Posted: 15 Oct 2007 04:23 | |
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NudeAutoMall, I am not a shill for Big Oil. It's not about "daring to be different", it's about facts. If a product works or doesn't work is not impacted by who sells it - everyone needs to produce evidence that their product works.
80% of gas not used? Can I get a link to something that shows proof of that? It sounds untrue. |
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| Posted: 25 Oct 2007 14:42 | |
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| I can not use the AC in my vehicle one, it doesn't have the freon it needs to work and two, it makes me sick. I can't stand to ride in any vehicle with the AC on it always makes me feel all woozy. | |
| Posted: 26 Oct 2007 21:50 | |
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| I am not to big on the AC. It has to be extremely hot for me to use it. I have never tried any of these products but I am one of the people that tends to think that in some cases it is just another way to make money off of people. | |
| Posted: 28 Oct 2007 19:15 | |
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I am sure there are little shade tree mechanics and cool-aid chemists who have come up with some truly effective gadgets and products that help save gas. The problem is they cannot reproduce the results with regularity, and don't have the money to fund further research without giving everything over to a large company with deeper pockets and resources.
When larger companies feel the time is right, they, too, will jump on the gadget and additive band wagon, just the way pharmaceutical companies - unable to scare people away from using herbs on their own through primary care physicians, moved to make it more difficult to make some of the traditional herbal remedies illegal without a doctor's prescription. |
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| Posted: 28 Oct 2007 19:36 | |
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| Besides what SageMother said, I believe that the powerful pockets of the oil companies are going to contain as much as possible anything that would save gas! | |
| Posted: 11 Nov 2007 03:23 | |
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Hi reviewer
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NudeAutoMall, I am not a shill for Big Oil. It's not about "daring to be different", it's about facts. If a product works or doesn't work is not impacted by who sells it - everyone needs to produce evidence that their product works. 80% of gas not used? Can I get a link to something that shows proof of that? It sounds untrue. I agree whole heartedly, "facts" not reports, get some grease under your fingernails and let's see what works. 80% loss that's bassic elementary school science? Aren't you guys tought that anymore? You have evaperation loss from the fuel delivery system, you have kinetic energy loss, a lot of friction, a lot of heat going to places other than pushing that pistion, and a lot of fuel that does not get atomized in the combustion chamber. Proof: Take a field trip to the drag strip. Run your car down the strip a couple of times, a couple of good hard runs and you will notice your engine hood is hot from heat that was lost, not converted to the energy to push the piston. Now pull out your air filter, smell it, does it smell like gasoline, air is only supose to be comming into the system here, you will smell gasoline here, at your carberator / mixer body, and you will smell it at your gas tank, all proof that you are loosing gasoline to evaperation. Ok, now park your car and go sit in the stands and watch the pro's at work. Notice the flames coming out the exaust pipes, that is fuel that is burining after it has already left the combustion cylinder, a lot of flame, and those toys are burning alcohol or nitro methane which are a lot more efficiant fuels than gasoline ever thought to be, converting something like 30, knocking on 40 persent to usable energy. |
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| Posted: 16 May 2008 00:30 | |
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| What would happen if we stopped using 40-50% less fuel by burning hho instead? I found www.hho4me.info and bought the books for 99.00 they are great and have paid for themselves in small improvements like fuel formulas, fuel heater & others. I'm getting materials for the electroizer and will try to keep fair records. Any one else trying this approach? | |
| Posted: 16 May 2008 00:37 | |
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I like sage mother's attitude? Wanna really get angry?? WAY OFF SUBJECT BUT A REAL MOTIVATOR google > who owns the federal reserve when your finished there type in money as debt.
they been working on making us ALL salves for a long time but that's just my opinion pass it on if you agree quiet riot |
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Hi there,
I think this information may help you out Have you ever heard of HHO fuel that has got to be the best way to save on gas prices.? ? Imagine the savings. It will cost you about $160, or two tanks of gas to install an HHO conversion kit Hydrogen Car Kit - Save Money and Improve MPG Massively Hydrogen car kit empowers your car to run on water and avoid oil as fuel. A vehicle however will not be able to run on water alone. There needs to be a mixture of gasoline and water to enable it to run smoothly. Even the Water Fuel Conversion Kits - How Using Water As Fuel Helps Cut Your Gas Consumption Recently,there is increased awareness among many drivers of a technology that uses plain water tosupplement the cars' gasoline consumption. Called a water fuel conversion kit, it is a simpleadd-on to your current car engine that uses your car battery to carry out an electrolysis on water to produce Hydroxy gas (HHO). This Hydroxy gas is used to supplement the burning ofgasoline in the car's engine. Hydrogen generator kit for car can be better than gasoline or oil additives to raise gas mileage. When you make or do it on your own, you can save money on gas but will save lots of dollars on the kit and reproduce the system for other automobiles on your own. saving money should be what everyonr thinks off and I have done this by using all ideas from my free Ebook - http://www.waterfuelkit.net I purchased the available eBooks that teach you how to run your car on water and installed one on my "chevy 350 small block," it's pretty easy. |
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| Posted: 29 Jun 2008 08:03 | |
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best way to save on gas is to stop driving for services appointment
let the services come to your home or office: massage therapist, pet grooming, CPA, broker, therapist, errand, etc etc check http://www.servemehere.com and book online a professionals services at your doorstep |
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I agree on that.
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Gas prices continue to increase, with no end in sight. This trend further accentuates the need for every human to purchase more fuel efficient cars. Having an automobile with good fuel economy is not only helpful in saving money, but it is also an integral part of repairing the environment.
The official definition of fuel economy is how much gas is needed to move a certain distance. In the United States, fuel economy is measured in miles per gallon, while in the rest of the world, it is mostly calculated in liters per one hundred kilometers. These measuring systems vary greatly; a higher number in the US system is optimal, while a lower number is desired in the metric system (the lower the number, the lower the amount of fuel needed to travel one hundred kilometers). Governments are taking notice of the importance of fuel economy, and are establishing guidelines which will regulate efficiency in the future. The European Union has decided that, starting in 2012, gasoline cars must have at least a 47mpg rating, and diesel cars must have at least a 52mpg rating. The United States currently taxes vehicles that do not adhere to environmental standards, as a means of discouraging their production. These taxes and penalties are expected to increase drastically within the next few years. Engineers are constantly working to find ways to increase the fuel efficiency of vehicles. Several factors affect fuel economy, so it is a matter of altering those factors to produce better efficiency. The weight of a car is one of the biggest factors in fuel economy, so engineers are always trying to make cars lighter. This can be done through replacing traditional materials, such as iron, with alternative options like carbon fiber,WATER FUEL. Wind resistance and drag require cars to exert energy to overcome them. More info at : <a href="http://www.waterfuelkit.net">free tips on alternative for fuel</a> |
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| Posted: 27 Jul 2008 03:03 Last Edited By: ecopure | |
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| If you really want to save... Use Ethos. It is a publically traded company, they aren't allowed to exaggerate like others do... the truth is; increase MPG 7-19% improve emmissions by 30 -100%. www.forearthonline.com/ecopure | |
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You can get $500 in free gas at this site:
www.gas234.com |
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This will help a lot of you out there to clear up all the myth out there. there is a new fuel technoligy that was design to save you money at the pump for you and your family its called the MPG-CAP. it like vitamins for your car and some call it magical fuel pill but i call it God send.
http://www.fuelsos.ffivideo.com or http://www.fuelsos.blogspot.com or http://www.fuelsos.myffi.biz |
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