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Posted: 30 Mar 2008 22:41 Last Edited By: James Hanlon
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Dutchman Enterprises has done it with their technologies . Phase #1 they " Guarantee " a 50% improvement in fuel economy and with their phase #2 added they took a 318 Chrysler engine from 22.8 to 196 on a dynomometer . They are awaiting EPA approval so they can replace the OEM catalytic converter with their Pre Ignition Catalytic Converter . Lets see if that so called super critic Eric Kreig and a few others will put their money where their f------g mouths are and take the BWT dealer , Jeff Otto up on the $5,000 challenge ? I would not bet on that occurring . Cowards usually have loud mouths . His bosses must be awfully upset with him for failing to adequately suppress this technology . There's much more to come too . ROTFLMAO !!! James Hanlon Redding, Ca 530-225-8600 http://shmyl.com/ojnpson

Posted: 30 Mar 2008 23:01
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snake oil.....

Posted: 31 Mar 2008 02:43
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Yeah, if it sound to good to be true, it probably is. I don't want to be closed minded though.

Posted: 31 Mar 2008 04:10
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Ghetto Cowboy : Are you willing to put your money where your mouth is and take on the challenge of one of their dealers , a Jeff Otto ? He's willing to put up $5,000 and the challenger do the same into an escrow account . Winner take all . If you are , email me at jhsolar@msn.com and I'll connect the two of you . You fellas should seek out some new adages . Those are worn out . Be original !

Posted: 31 Mar 2008 08:46
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are we talking about the amazing fuel saver that you sell? OR the LifeTime Electrostatic Filters - Never replace a cheap filter again! OR WaterOz Mineral Water Supplements - Only pure water soluble minerals in pure water OR Takara Body Detox Foot Patches - Detoxifies Your Body During Sleep! OR LTU-1000 Pain Relief LTU-1000 - Pain Relief Through Technology Because all of these "gimicks" are sold through your website...... but back to your original ques. or "challenge" as you put it, Plain and simple, if you can make my dodge truck with a 318 engine get 196mpg as you claim, well of course id give you 5 grand in a heart beat

Posted: 31 Mar 2008 19:51
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That is the dealer's , Jeff Otto's , website . I'm a mere affiliate who intends upon purchasing phase #1 , the Hydro Assist Fuel Cell ( HAFC ) which the company " GUARANTEES " a 50% increase in fuel economy . They can do this because they are averaging 95% . Some 4 cylinder vehicles are getting three times or better just with phase #1 and thus no need to purchase phase #2 . Phase #2 , which is called the Pre Ignition Catalytic Converter ( PICC ) will be introduced to the market upon EPA approval which is expected soon . Until then they can't even road test it . They've only tested it on a dynomometer . Phase #1 and phase #2 is a total modification package and customers are having the HAFC installed now while awaiting for the PICC . The company claims that they can make any automobile and/or light truck get 100 MPG with the complete package . Due to the critics like yourself that are so quick to holler scam , fraud , etc ; one of their dealers has issued a " challenge " whereby the critic and he each place $5,000 into escrow , winner take all . Now , it's healthy and also prudent to be skeptical , but with an open mind . I've found some " critics " rather ignorant and too damn lazy to do proper research before they open their mouth . Some others are simply paid character assassins hired by big oil , auto manufacturers and government agencies in their attempt to suppress any and all technologies that will disrupt the status quo and their power over the populace . With their " GUARANTEE " there should be no reason not to order the HAFC and enjoy the probable near 100% or more increase in economy while awaiting for the EPA approval on the PICC . Now , show me " ANYONE " will issue any guarantees regarding economy . Maybe you should go back to that web site and view the two videos about these two technological developments . While you're there request a " FREE " quote for you vehicles . That won't cost you a single dime nor obligate you in any way. You can also register for updates and/or as an affiliate in case you'd like to earn some commissions when you begin bragging to your friends and can prove your own claims . They also have regular Thursday evening updates that are also archived in case one can't make the conference call . They are now working on developing units for the trucking and farming industries . Both the independent truckers and small farmers are in jeopardy of extinction which is the agenda of TPTB . That's why the truckers are having a 3 to 4 day strike . A year ago diesel cost was about $2.35 and now is about $4.25 . If this isn't corrected we'll see nothing but Mexican trucks and drivers on our roads . That's the agenda . Yes , I do what I can to spread he word because I damn well care about the losses of our freedoms . I'll utilize any commissions I earn to further the cause and just maybe help regain our Constitutional Republic . There's no oil shortage . Turn off the ball game and mind controls ( Main Stream Media propaganda ) and Go to: http://www.reformation.org/energy-non-crisis.html and learn some truth . Take care

Posted: 03 Apr 2008 06:58
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As I said, I'm open minded. It will be hard to convince people that are quick to yell scam. That's a major problem to deal with. Most people would more likely believe a 2% increase in gas mileage from a product rather than seemingly outrageous claims from gas savers. My main questions are... What are the long term test results? 100,000 miles? If I can save $2000 on gas over the next 12 months, but you destroy my engine on my $10,000 car, then you didn't do me any favors. Once modifications are made, can I revert back to stock? Replacement parts and upkeep?

Posted: 25 Apr 2008 17:16
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Has anybody here heard of NANOTECH FUEL? http://www.online-auto.net/gas-mileage.htm

Posted: 01 May 2008 05:46
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James, Have you installed your HAFC yet? You will be happy to hear that we have the HAFC installed on a 1988 Suburban that has 250,000 miles on it. It got between 8 and 12 mpg before the kit was installed. Now it gets between 26 and 29 mpg. Last weekend we promoted the HAFC at a Home Show here in Utah. We had a huge response, and to our surprise 98% of it was positive. We were initially a little worried that we would get a lot of naysayers, but we only had about 3. And needless to say, once they looked at that suburban they were no longer naysayers. We also had a ton of mechanics who were extremely excited because they were already familiar with the technology and knew that it works. I read all of these comments from people who say we are selling "snake oil", I even get nasty emails saying the same, and I just think it is so interesting how some people will judge before knowing the facts about something. Look at Thomas Eddison for example, he was mocked and laughed at relentlessly, and now many of his inventions greatly influence our lives! Don't knock something until you try it, you might be amazed. There are over 15,000 vehicles currently equipped with the HAFC in the U.S. I read all of these forums, and see all of these people bad mouthing the HAFC, but I have never seen a post or article from someone who has said that they have actually tried the HAFC and it didn't work. Have you? One other cool thing about our Suburban, we took it to get the emissions done on it last Thursday, and it came back 0 straight across! It burns completely clean! I believe that what we are doing is a good thing. We need to fight this thing to the end. What is with these Americans who are so focused on fighting with eachother, that they can't see that we need to be trying to fight the problem together? www.fuelitcheap.com

Posted: 02 May 2008 20:48
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if these things are so great and save so much gas then why dont we see them on the shelfs of autozone or other auto parts stores? and plz dont say its cause big oil pays them off etc etc

Posted: 17 May 2008 00:52
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OK They don't pay them off they threten to kill them how's that for a motovator?? go to google and type in paul pantone. Besides these guys wnat to beconme billionairs over night whuich is what they will be if it turns out to be a valid system

Posted: 21 May 2008 06:41
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You guys are comical, but I love reading your posts, so keep it going.

Posted: 09 Jun 2008 13:51
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hey, I'm the guy they refer to as the character assassin. cool! I've just been following the ex convict behind Dutchman for a dozen years. I have info on his endless money-sucking MLM scams at www.phact.org/e/dennis.html He's been promising free electricity for 20+ years, so don't hold your breath waiting for his high mileage (which he has only been promising about 5 years now). Legends of 100 mpg have been around 100 years - always annecdotes. ultimately they skirt around the question of real proof by hiding behind conspiracy stories. IF HAFC is real and they have said 1000's of happy customers, why can't I line up even one to do an independent validation on video before engineers and small town newspaper reporters. Refer to my offer to go from leading skeptic to leading supporter at www.phact.org/hafc.htm

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